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George Storrs (early Russell associate) had some class
by stirred but not shaken infrom the book "a separate identity" p.248 & 249 by schulz and de vienne there is a quote from storrs that is prefaced this way: this wasn't the first time barbour and storrs had clashed.
though not naming barbour, after the 1874 failure storrs addressed barbour's dictatorial exclusivity and failed predictions:.
"teachers who manifest a disposition to exalt self and make it appear that they are something remarkable, are unmistakably false teachers.
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I know 2 of the Elders on the Ray Franz JC
by James Jackson inwhen i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.
i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.
they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".
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I want to know. Don't you?
by Old Goat insome of you are probably a bit tired of me promoting these history books, but im doing it again.
1. nelson barbour: the millenniums forgotten prophet.
de vienne is not.
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My daughter's wedding dilemma
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy daughter will be getting married this coming august.
she and her future husband are not jehovah's witnesses.
they will have a non-religious wedding ceremony.
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Charles Taze Russell
by thedog1 ini think i read somewhere, here or maybe on another forum, that somebody claimed that c.t.
russell stood on the brooklyn bridge with some others, all in white robes, in 1878, waiting for the rapture.
any truth in that?.
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Dating the writing of a Bible book
by stirred but not shaken inwhile doing the research over the last several years that lead me to conclude that the wt.
society was in error, i was introduced to the possibility that the writings of all scripture was completed by the early to mid 60s ce.
the reasoning that is used in the publications varies.
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Feeling disloyal
by stirred but not shaken ini've been visiting here for about a year or so, but didn't really feel compelled to participate other than reading the various posts that interested me.. there's been that uncomfortable feeling of being disloyal to god, the organization, many friends and relatives.. i've been associated since birth.
after 65 + years of service within this organization and actually enjoying that time, it troubled me to find myself wanting to express feelings that were contrary to all that time of "faithfulness".
those years were filled with progressive "privileges and responsibilities" even at a high level, and there was considerable success in our evangelizing activity.
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We are seeing JW history in the making
by suavojr inwith all the current changes and downsizing, the 1914 "anchor date" appears to be drifting out to sea.
yes, i know the gb is putting all of their chips on 1914 but if you stop and think about it for a moment.. we are seeing jw history in the making for the next jw generation of 2114.. first they teach a date as significant.second, when it becomes obsolete, they come up with a convoluted explanation of how it really was significant, just not in the way "some believers" once taught.third, it becomes a historical footnote, as in: "bible students at one time thought... but now we see... evidently... .
the next generation of jws (100 years from today) will be talking about 2014 as the year of great expectation, and how close the end is in 2114. yes, when jesus spoke about this generation evidently he was talking in a symbolic way, and he was truly referring to the generation class.. .